tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post4350776050452037088..comments2024-01-30T12:46:10.810-05:00Comments on Yappa Ding Ding: Carbon Tax: Good, Necessary, Politically DangerousYappahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18126433451905766475noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-18892943901616363602008-05-27T00:11:00.000-04:002008-05-27T00:11:00.000-04:00The NDP have supported the Liberal Cap and Trade p...The NDP have supported the Liberal Cap and Trade proposal. In particular the NDP supported the plan contained in "Balancing Our Carbon Budget", the Liberal Party white paper put out last spring and available at<BR/>http://www.liberal.ca/pdf/docs/whitepaper_EN.pdf<BR/><BR/>The planet doesn't need the NDP and the Liberals fighting on this issue.tedhsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17762609953990464067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-9704010211096235772008-05-26T14:41:00.000-04:002008-05-26T14:41:00.000-04:00As an old fart grumpy voter who actually remembers...As an old fart grumpy voter who actually remembers Joe Clark's government falling and who has lived through now his third *high gas prices, low supply, high inflation crisis* the fuel efficiency of vehicles has actually incrementally improved since the 1970's, so I'm not sure where you're getting the notion they haven't. That said, what Detroit produces and what people buy is directly linked to said price of oil. In the early to mid-70's, Detroit produced HUGE cars that got 10 Feet/gallon. When the energy crisis hit, those boat mobiles suddenly created a situation where nobody could afford to drive them (similar to what is happening now with the high prices and SUV's) and it very nearly bankrupted Chrysler Corporation. (Chrysler's salvation was a loan from the US government and the creation of a small, efficient and affordable family car for the masses - the K-Car). The energy crisis also forced government to open the border to small econo-boxes from Japan that were mechanically well designed and fuel efficient - but poorly designed for the Canadian winter - they were rust buckets - that's why you don't exactly see a helluva lot of 1977 Datsun B210's driving around anymore. When the recession hit in the 80's, the price of oil plummeted and cars started getting bigger again. In the 90's, when oil was $10/barrel and there was a huge oil surplus, Detroit started producing SUV's like it was going out of style (along with their Japanese counterparts) and soon, our highways and biways were filled with gas pig vehicles again. <BR/><BR/>They key factor you are failing to recognize is the economic circumstances that led to Clark getting punted out of office.<BR/><BR/>He wanted to introduce a tax on gasoline at a time when inflation was rampant, fuel was in short supply and the price at the pumps was abhorrent. (Basically what we have now - funny how history repeats itself.)<BR/><BR/>I admire your concern for the environment, but the reality is there are a jillion other things we could do that won't penalize the working poor, seniors or those on fixed incomes. A carbon tax is political suicide for Stephane Dion because the fact is, the economy will ALWAYS trump concern for the environment when push comes to shove.Sean Cummingshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01550744638377851070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-10576455995710689392008-05-26T13:16:00.000-04:002008-05-26T13:16:00.000-04:00Yappa: The NDP cap and trade solution would provid...Yappa: The NDP cap and trade solution would provide a hard cap for industries. Industry makes up 50% of Canadian carbon emissions. For corporations that surpass the cap they pay a penalty to government which can then be used to offset increased public transit, rebate programs for retrofitting homes and business, improving rail infrastructure to increase commuter and commodities transport.<BR/><BR/>Do Canadians have to take more responsibility for their carbon footprint. Of course. But the LPC proposal is not the only way to encourage emission reduction.<BR/><BR/>First, if rumours are true, the LPC will shy away from a carbon tax on gas and heating. I would argue that these two things make up the largest percentage of an individual's carbon footprint. The very logic of implementing a carbon tax would therefore be comprised should this be the LPC plan. <BR/><BR/>I personally don't support a carbon tax because I think that it will disproportionately hurt fixed income, and working class families who will see higher costs on a day to day basis but will not see the tax shift benefit except on a yearly or at best quarterly basis. Upper middle class and well off Canadians will be able to mitigate the costs of a carbon tax by buying hybrid cars, or buying homes closer to their work, or paying the premium for organic locally grown food or putting in geothermal or solar equipment to heat and light their homes. These options are not available to most Canadians.<BR/><BR/>Cap and trade is an equally viable option from an environmental perspective. It has been supported by the David Suzuki foundation. The NDP is arguing that the first step for both environmental AND social justice should be cap and trade.<BR/><BR/>Once we have more transit, more green affordable housing, more locally produced food, more green collar jobs - essentially more green options, that would be a time when we could ask for greater personal sacrifice because then the transition would be less painful for those that can least afford it.<BR/><BR/>Partisan alert - I would remind progressives who happen to vote Liberal that we are in this crisis in part because of 13 years of inaction by successive Liberal governments. Throughout that time, the NDP called for more federal money and policy to meet Kyoto targets, for increased funding to municipalities for transit and green affordable housing. Folks should get a full picture of the NDP's Green policies - visit (www.ndp.ca/greenagenda)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com