tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post4420163698909534685..comments2024-01-30T12:46:10.810-05:00Comments on Yappa Ding Ding: Anyone But HarperYappahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18126433451905766475noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-82180387225653190442009-05-13T22:01:00.000-04:002009-05-13T22:01:00.000-04:00Go to cdf1.ca before you decide on anything else.p...Go to cdf1.ca before you decide on anything else.please help.this government is hiding things from you.dolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00332190288935345912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-54288107438324103792008-10-02T10:04:00.000-04:002008-10-02T10:04:00.000-04:00Hi Bert -Yep, these are scary days indeed. ;-)But ...Hi Bert -<BR/><BR/>Yep, these are scary days indeed. ;-)<BR/><BR/>But about the seeming ganging up: there were four leaders who have similar policies, and they strongly disagree with Harper. Of course that had to come out. <BR/><BR/>It would be one thing if the disagreement was about how best to achieve goals, but it's not: it's about values and a vision of Canada in the future. <BR/><BR/>Harper has a very aggressive agenda to change Canada - to put more people in jail, to cut NGOs and arts, to have a bigger military, to have less social services, and on and on. Other people feel passionately that his agenda will wreck the country.<BR/><BR/>What you call "bringing down Harper" is standing up for nearly 150 years of Canadian values and opposing his radical agenda to remake Canada in George Bush's image.Yappahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18126433451905766475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-52176505007303937082008-10-02T08:35:00.000-04:002008-10-02T08:35:00.000-04:00I plan on wearing Conservative Blue on October 15t...I plan on wearing Conservative Blue on October 15th, in celebration of the Conservative majority. It must REALLY suck to be Liberal now adays, especially with their supporters grasping at straws like this.<BR/><BR/>While I'm at it, you can really see that none of the leader's at the debate last evening has anything really important to say. The only thing they are interested in is "bringing down Harper". They were, in effect, like a school yard group of bullies ganging up on one kid.Berthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03790958603845618922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-46597460351953352872008-10-01T10:26:00.000-04:002008-10-01T10:26:00.000-04:00To lord kitchener's own -The way I interpreted the...To lord kitchener's own -<BR/><BR/>The way I interpreted the Globe, and the way I wrote it, is that it's 81% of 52%, not 81% of the country. But your point about people who are already voting to stop them is good.Yappahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18126433451905766475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-79114737204181736162008-10-01T10:12:00.000-04:002008-10-01T10:12:00.000-04:00This poll is almost meaningless imho, unless it's ...This poll is almost meaningless imho, unless it's been misreported (which is possible of course).<BR/><BR/>So, 81% of voters won't change their vote to stop a Harper majority. <I>SOUNDS</I> like a lot of people aren't really that worried. But let's break this down.<BR/><BR/>First off, about 36% of that 81% are people who are PLANNING TO VOTE TORY. So, d'uh they're not going to change their votes to stop the Tories... they LIKE the Tories. So that leave 45% of voters who wouldn't change their vote to stop a Tory majority.<BR/><BR/>Now, how many of those people actually NEED to change their vote to stop a Tory majority? If I plan to vote Liberal, and I live in a solidly Liberal riding (or a riding where the Liberals are most likely to come in second), then I don't plan to change my vote to stop the Tories, because I'm ALREADY DOING EVERYTHING I CAN to stop the Tories. If I'm an NDP voter in a solidly NDP riding (or a riding where the NDP are most likely to come in second), same thing. <BR/><BR/>So, the 81% figure is TOTALLY bogus. Hell, even saying "45% of voters won't change their vote to stop the Tories" is bogus. If the intention of this poll is to measure how many people would vote strategically to stop the Tories it ignores one very big question. How many voters are ALREADY planning to vote strategically in order to stop the Tories (or, aren't "voting strategically" but are voting out of pure conviction for the party for whom they would need to vote strategically if they wanted to vote strategically, and therefore don't need to change their vote in order to do what they're already doing).<BR/><BR/>Long story short, silly question, meaningless figure, doesn't tell us ANYTHING.<BR/><BR/>If the headline of this poll was "1 in 4 'progressive' voters plan to vote for whichever party they need to to stop the Tories" wouldn't that seem like an awful LOT of strategic voting (16% of all voters is about 27% of "progressive" voters).Lord Kitchener's Ownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08348376638620272991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23053767.post-26828594729035404452008-10-01T07:59:00.000-04:002008-10-01T07:59:00.000-04:00I thought the Liberals were a centrist party? Why...I thought the Liberals were a centrist party? Why side with the left then?<BR/><BR/>And are you saying you'd prefer to elect separatists than Conservatives? That's pretty shocking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com